Moukoko convinces in the U21: “The coach trusts me” – on par with Volland

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I view Moukoko a little more critically…

The fact that he doesn’t play is not because of Haller and Füllkrug, but because of him.

When Haller was unavailable for action, there was no filling jug. Moukoko was given the playing time that he could have played with. But he preferred to use the momentum to make as much money as possible instead of concentrating on the game. Once he had secured the money, there was hardly anything left. From then on, BVB paid more money for less performance.

The fact that Füllkrug was signed is entirely up to him.

Moukoko was also treated with maximum modesty. I mean, he was the top scorer in the first half of the season (even though they gave him a worse Modeste like Füllkrug), but when things start going slowly from the second half onwards, Haller gets unconditionally put in front of his face, no matter how badly he played in many games.

If that didn’t leave a mental mark on a teenager, that would be a mentality that goes beyond CR7 spheres.
With a fraction of the trust, Moukoko had 1(!) fewer scorers last season than 30 million men Adeyemi or Reus.
If you demand pure consistency from an 18-year-old, that’s just too much.

Moukoko is not a beefy 9, can still work on some aspects etc. but if he were to consistently show what he showed at the end of 2022 in terms of efficiency and scorers, then Haller and Füllkrug would probably be behind the clear number 1 in the last 10 minutes of important games beat.
It’s clear that he doesn’t have this consistency, but even in the U21 he has mostly older opponents and delivers even though things aren’t going well for him at the club – because he simply doesn’t get any chances.

For pure strikers, we are currently committing ~14 million in salary per annum and almost 45 million in transfer fees in front of Moukoko’s nose, just so that we will soon have two 30-year-olds there who cannot prove that they have scored consistently for more than one season – mind you, as strikers, not as wingers. 10s or similar where other aspects should be given greater weight/weighed up.

Edit; At the age of 16-18, Moukoko has an average scorer every 99 minutes – for Füllkrug, with a regular place at Bremen / Hannover and a few minutes for us, there is a scorer every 146 minutes, for Haller, who was playing on the rise at Frankfurt and last season at the Didn’t take part in the catastrophic first half of the season due to health reasons, there was a scorer point every 119 minutes.
Moukoko’s cut will improve rather than worsen with further developments.

It’s not entirely clear what exactly you calculated here, because unfortunately you didn’t write down which seasons you actually used for your calculation.
Regardless of this, the last season probably best reflects the strength of the players. And here Füllkrug is ahead when it comes to goals. Not only did he score more than twice as often at a relegation-threatened club than Moukoko did at the Champions League club, but he also scored more times per minute.
In fact, there are also other factors that determine which player is selected, such as passing, strength in duels, involvement in the game, technique, endurance, sprinting abilities, special skills (strong header game, good free-kick taker, moments of surprise).
Apart from that, strikers in particular often only develop consistent accuracy as they get older, which is largely due to experience and the associated momentum when finishing.

Transfer market data. only Bundesliga seasons of the 3 players mentioned and the scorers and minutes they achieved.

And of course you get more chances to score at a CL club and it’s easier to score a few goals, but it’s also much easier to score with experience and self-confidence (= because you’re an undisputed regular player). With us you end up on the bench more quickly if you don’t score, Moukoko has had to fight for playing time from Håland or 30+ million Haller men, Haller’s biggest competition was with this scoring average.. Castaignos at Frankfurt? For Ducksch.. Joselu near Hanover? There were also predominantly double-striker systems where it was easier to play as a pure 9 (Haller near Frankfurt, Füllkrug near Bremen).

To use the last season as an illustration is extremely difficult if you take Füllkrug’s absolute peak season, Moukoko’s lack of support in the second half of the season and Haller’s testicular cancer in the first half of the season. Measured in terms of a season, you could overestimate a lot, especially when it comes to strikers, then Batshuayi wouldn’t be a million-dollar flop because of a BVB loan where it was right, Andre Silva would be a 100% sure top scorer who went from Frankfurt to Leipzig and so much more..

Of course, there is more to the profile in attack than “just” scoring goals, but it is still pointless and, in my opinion, completely pointless to bring in two strikers who are expensive to maintain and not completely “difficult” from an economic point of view unless they are successful in sport, and a talent like Moukoko no longer to be trusted. If we were to talk about Dortmund bringing in a striker with 3-4, 12-17 scoring seasons and building Moukoko behind him – then ok. But two strikers who took careers with detours (Haller flop, transfer to England, back to the Netherlands, then another big step & filler with injuries, 2nd league etc. and with 28/29 then with a large number of scorers and DFB nomination ).

It’s not for nothing that Moukoko has had his hype since he was 12 years old and these records aren’t even broken in German football. If you do something like Haller / Füllkrug (although other types of players in the ZM / ZDM, a new RV, a winger… would have done us better), you should have at least planned smartly with, if necessary, loaning Moukoko where he could be can collect evidence at a high level and where the loser from Haller / Füllkrug would have been allowed to make room when the boy returns.

So you destroy money en masse and weaken yourself in the medium term – without having “exceptional” strikers in a suitable squad to be able to clearly aim for titles – that just doesn’t make any sense to me.

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