The delivery of young years with Neelie Kroes starts ice cold: Pfauth notices that Kroes is not a retrospective and asks why she said ‘yes’ to a conversation about her early years. Kroes: “On the way here, I also wondered why I had said yes.” “Do you feel like it?” tries Pfauth. “I’m not running away, so we keep going,” says Kroes. Fortunately, because given Pfauth’s goal – to talk to famous people about the years before their breakthrough, in order to analyze their success and inspire young listeners – it becomes a valuable interview in which Kroes talks more openly about the barriers she faces as a woman. encountered. Pfauth’s questions are elegant and straightforward. Other conversations are with Ilja Leonard Pfeijffer, Piet Oudolf and Jandino Asporaat.
A version of this article also appeared in the newspaper of May 7, 2022