After a woman spoke up publicly and claimed to have been drugged with knockout drops at a Rammstein party and probably abused, a heated discussion broke out on the internet. Among other things, it is discussed what role Till Lindemann could have played in the alleged events and whether the alleged victim can be believed. The discussions also ensure heated debates on the subject of victim blaming.
#JusticeForRammstein: Many fans support Till Lindemann
Some Twitter users have taken it upon themselves to investigate allegations made by alleged victim Shelby. But she too becomes a target:
That’s the girl you’re defending? Sorry but something is wrong with her #Rammstein #lindemann pic.twitter.com/uvHzGtNRSg
— Sophie Leske (@LeskeSophie) May 29, 2023
Shelby sounds incredibly believable and of course looks it too.#Rammstein #Lindemann pic.twitter.com/DvfjJhzLrK
— Paul Asten (@asten_paul) May 29, 2023
Other users side with Shelby. “Stop protecting perpetrators and men in positions of power”:
I’ve worked backstage long enough and I’m no stranger to anything I do #Lindemann What is exciting is that we can read everything that happened, be it on Twitter, insta or Reddit. There are chat histories, there is a woman who introduces him to girls and women, there…
— Chiara_Fa (@chiaravonfa) May 29, 2023
As is often the case on Twitter, many comments go below the belt. Therefore, some users appeal to common sense:
Basically, I only have one request for the time being… Stop stepping in on the victims, especially when it comes to such hard topics, but in general in general. It’s so shabby what people have to read here in part. #Lindemann
— Marcel | Kelberich (@kelberich_) May 29, 2023
Standard sentence when a celebrity is accused of rape…
“HE CAN HAVE EVERYONE, WHY DOES HE NEED THAT”. #Rammstein #Lindemann pic.twitter.com/tu5993EE5w— 𝐺𝐼𝑂®📯🇺🇦🇬🇷 (@THiSiZGi0) May 29, 2023
Some users try to gather the facts to paint a more accurate picture. According to the current status, Till Lindemann is not to be accused of any facts – it is statement against statement; It should also be noted that the band wrote on Twitter that there were no investigations against them. Rammstein have released a statement denying the allegations. Whatever happened at a pre- or after-party in Vilnius is unclear.
#Lindemann #Rammstein
Let’s summarize briefly:
– there was no sex.
– there is a claim that one was given drugs (all tox. results are negative and theoretically shelby could have gotten it from anywhere)
– there is a bruise https://t.co/HzziRZwCju— single ladies (@whats_updoc90) May 29, 2023
As some users point out, KO drops can make people appear drunk. In addition, they can only be detected for six to twelve hours. As some videos are supposed to prove, Shelby seemed drunk on the show and behaved conspicuously.
Once again in German
More and more people who were at the concert confirm that Shelby 69666 was very pushy and security was even annoyed with her. She claims she only had 2 drinks but is clearly drunk here. She says her phone was + at the entrance pic.twitter.com/IihHYBxL8g— Sophie Leske (@LeskeSophie) May 29, 2023