‘Rox and Rachel? Never gonna be okay again!’

André Hazes jr. thinks that his sister Roxeanne and his mother Rachel will never make up for their quarrel. “I think it’s too late for that honestly. I see it gloomy after all these years.”

© AvroTros, William Rutten, Radio 538

The contact between André Hazes Jr. and his mother Rachel Hazes has been disrupted since their mysterious conflict at the end of last year. According to him, they are currently in contact, but at an ‘appropriate distance’. Particularly sad, because with her other child it is also bumblebee: Rachel only communicates with daughter Roxeanne through her lawyer.

‘It’s really sad’

Roxeanne more or less accuses Rachel of body snatching. She turns out not to be the heir of her deceased father André. “I get that we’re public figures, but that’s just really sad, you know, and painful. That one is really simple heavyyou see,” says André Jr. in the 538 afternoon show from Frank Dane.

He wants to stay out of it: “What they do is already heavy, of course, but if you’re outside it and you’re still pulled in, that’s just weird or something. That’s just how it feels to me. I want to tell you all about it, but I don’t know anything. I also read it from De Telegraaf, you understand? People think I’m weird too, but I don’t want anything to do with it.”

Legacy pieces

Does André understand Rox’s point? Has he seen the legacy pieces? “No, because I don’t interfere. Rox’s lawyer kept me informed of his own accord in the beginning. I’m not responding because I don’t want anything to do with it. Whatever the outcome, what do you win? We’re just being pulled apart more, aren’t we, like this?”

According to André, the family situation is at an all-time low. “I do speak to my mother occasionally. Well at an appropriate distance, but we will talk to each other. I just find it all kinda pathetic or something. So, I can also shoot full of it or something. It’s shit or something, right? It’s all already k*t and situations like this only make it k*tter.”

‘It’s already too late’

538 sidekick Jelte van der Goot: “And just sit down with a cup of tea? That’s what a lot of people think: why don’t they just sit together? What’s going wrong there?”

André takes a gloomy view. “I think it’s too late for that honestly. You know… It’s already that far. I hope it can all happen one day, but I see it gloomy after all these years.”

Newsreader Airen Mylene: “Just for a moment… Are you really saying that you won’t have a cup of coffee or tea with your mother and not with your sister?”

André: “No, sorry, no, no, no. I’m talking about the two of them together. That this goes too far for that. It’s too late for that.”

‘Pity if it’s late’

Airen: “So you see it gloomy that those two are still together…”

André: “The bond between them is of course different from mine with my sister and mine and my mother. I am not angry with either of them, but they are with each other now.”

Can’t a Family Dinner-like intervention take place? What can André do to make things right again? “Dear, if I knew, I would of course organize it all, but I really have no idea.”

It is difficult for Airen to understand that with Rachel, fighting takes precedence over seeing your grandchildren. André: “Yes, I also have that as a father, yes. I can’t understand that either.”

André would mind if the situation stays as it is now. “My father turned 53, my mother is now. It would be a shame if we’re all late. I have the exact same thought, but I can’t decide that for them.”

‘You are good’

How bad the contact is between André and Rachel becomes apparent when RTL Boulevard reporter Aran Bade is waiting for him after his performance at 538, where his new single premiered. He tells Aran that his flashing fiancée Monique Westenberg thinks his brand new record is great.

Aran: “And your mother, how did she like it?”

André: “To be honest, I haven’t used my phone yet.”

Aran smartly: “Okay, hadn’t she heard before then?”

André: “No, no, no. Oh, you’re good, aren’t you? You are good! No, she hasn’t heard it yet.”

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