Johan Derksen finds it ‘sickening’ that there has been a fuss about a joke that Jeroen Pauw allegedly made in 2008. “Let those woke figures get the hell out of here!”
Historian Nadia Bouras states on X that Jeroen Pauw made an inappropriate joke to her in 2008. “My very first media appearance (…) was in 2008 at Pauw & Witteman. A minute before the live broadcast, Jeroen asked me: ‘Did you come by bike or, as a Moroccan, have you not yet obtained a cycling diploma?’ First meeting ever.”
Peacock under fire
Jeroen categorically denies that. “Hey, Nadia Bouras, this is quite malicious. Why do you come up with something like that?”, he writes X. “No idea why you made it up. I quite like a ‘bad’ joke, although I don’t find this example funny. You say yes and I say no, I shouldn’t have responded, it’s all so pointless. Good evening.”
According to Nadia, she has no reason to lie and she enjoys a lot of support among her followers, but the men of Today Inside take Jeroen’s side. Wilfred Genee brings it up in the episode from last night: “And the story with Jeroen Pauw who is now under fire because he ten or twenty years ago…”
Sickening
Johan Derksen thinks the fuss is about nothing. “He made a bad joke to that lady in 2008: ‘Are you on your bike or do you not have your cycling diploma yet?’ It’s not like I’m crawling on the ground shaking my stomach…”
Wilfred: “No, but that was the case at the time, I understand?”
Johan: “Yes, I think you had cycling courses for Moroccans back then. That that person now, fifteen years later, has found it discriminatory, you know… Back on stage and because people like X support her, it just becomes a riot. Man, it’s sickening.”
Woke figures
Johan says he is tired of all those types. “They’re all these woke figures, let them all mess around. And I don’t give a shit, I don’t care about it.”
The same goes for Khalid & Sophie, he continues. “I saw mood-mongering there again tonight. It’s sickening. I think they’re becoming an annoying bunch. (…) Now there was a disc jockey with that long hair. They had two girls wearing such a headscarf and they now had the impression that all the people on public transport were looking at them.”
Floppy turd
And that is all Wilders’ fault, Johan cynically notes. “If girls wearing a headscarf behave normally, no one will harm them in this country. They create it themselves with this kind of talk and then some idiot who plays shitty pictures and stirs things up a bit. Come on. They like to feel it too, don’t they?”
Table guest Wouter de Winther: “You can walk through Amsterdam Nieuw-West as a woman wearing a short skirt and get hissed or walk hand in hand with your boyfriend as a gay person in those kinds of neighborhoods. Then I don’t think you will be received very warmly, so I don’t know whether this is exactly the new development that is turning the Netherlands upside down.”
Tiring lot
Skater Marianne Timmer agrees with Johan. “I agree with what you say.”
Sports marketer Chris Woerts on the stool next to her: “Canal Belt nonsense, dude.”
Johan: “Yes, I find it very tiring. (…) And the two who present it then look very approvingly and very understandably.”
René van der Gijp: “Yes, tiring couple, those two, Khalid & Sophie.”