INTERVIEW. Elite soldier Fly and professor Jonathan Holslag: “Ukraine is just the appetizer of a much bigger showdown”

Yes, they know that they will be accused of being a doomsayer, but that doesn’t interest them. Fly (55) from ‘Kamp Waes’ and professor Jonathan Holslag (42) are kindred spirits who look at the world order and our country with wide eyes. In their first interview together they put their finger on the wound about the pampering of the youth, how every citizen can cultivate the mindset of the Special Forces, and Belgium’s military position. “You don’t like hearing all that on your pink cloud, do you?”

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