The bottom line is that Baumann did a good job. He has to compensate for the failures of the Thomas Eichin and Allofs era and at that time many Werder fans, including me, still had the wrong expectations. Things have been going downhill since 2010.
I’m curious what the successor will be. The available people aren’t exactly lining up to get a job at “cash-strapped” Werder.
I honestly can’t imagine Fritz staying back here and allowing a “new” boss to be put in front of him. The squad also has a few open construction sites or contracts are expiring and decisions have to be made.
I’m hoping for someone who can scout cheap talent that we can further develop and then sell at a correspondingly high price. Frankfurt principle. Considering that we only have two “big” clubs in the north, HSV, our development of talent is underground.
Our goal must be clear to stabilize in the league.
Sorry, that’s not true at all, Eichin had to suffer the end of Allof’s era. Baumann was able to spend the money that Eichin brought in with his full hands when he took office. How can one have such a completely false perception?
It’s just the narrative of the “victim of circumstances” that Baumann has built up all these years^^
After 8 years of sport, we are in similar league table regions as under Eichin, but in contrast to the positive view of the future at the time, we have burdensome debts, an aging team with construction sites in almost every position and there is a lack of mid-double-digit million amounts to invest in the modernization of the infrastructure of the club would have to flow.
– and the fans thank you for it and rate the work as fundamentally positive…that is the true genius of Frank Baumann
Criticism is appropriate as long as it remains fair. But no manager in the world would have emerged from the Corona pandemic like the king in Bremen with ghost games and stabilized the club. That literally broke our necks. Could you expect that? No! Baumi also played his part in ensuring that we were able to celebrate direct promotion and stay in the league.
What is unfair about this criticism? Baumann did not start Corona.
After the first half of the season 19/20 they were in a direct relegation zone. The second half of the season began with 5 defeats and one win until the Corona interruption. With that performance you would have gone down without a hitch. What NEGATIVE influence is Corona supposed to have had on the season?
After that, Baumann would have had the chance to replace Kohfeldt. He didn’t do it, instead we entered round two of the relegation battle. You can still argue that with reinforcements it might have been just about enough – but to be honest you saw what FloKo himself did with money and reinforcements in Wolfsburg…
In League 2, Baumann only installed the unsuccessful beginning and was LUCKY that he had a fake vaccination certificate, which is why he had to replace it. In addition, together with Schalke, he had by far the largest budget and a large part of the first division squad at his disposal. Anything other than promotion would be a disappointing season.
EVERY club was affected by Corona, but Werder and Schalke emerged as absolute losers. The legitimate question should be asked why this is the case if those responsible have not made any mistakes.
That’s exactly how it looks like.
Baumann made a few good transfers, but overall he was largely responsible for the relegation by sticking with Kohfeldt. It is often forgotten that Werder went into the winter break twice (!) under Kohfeldt with 13 points. The first time (before Covid was even a problem!) that should have been it for him! Kohfeldt should have been replaced by summer at the latest.
Why Baumann let him continue with a season record of 19/20 in 16th place with 31 points and a +/- of -27 (!) until the penultimate matchday in the 20/21 season… I can’t find any rationalizations for that. 69 (!) goals conceded in 19/20, which was only more in ’79/80, when they were last relegated (93!). In 18/19 there were ‘only’ 49!
Kohfeldt would have had to fly based on every metric. Why didn’t Baumann fire him? For me there are only two perspectives: lack of judgment (which is ultimately incompetence…) or some weird groupthink thing that people in Bremen thought ‘everything will be better next season.’
It’s just a shame what’s happening at the club and to be honest I’ve mostly finished with Bremen. The sporting failure and the penetrating nepotism are one thing, the much worse thing is now our own fans.
You can see how people are being beaten up here who are happy (with objective) facts that someone new is finally taking over and are already worried that it will be “just” Fritz. Then people are basher, Haider, unfair or they are accused of having a personal problem with Frank Baumann.
That’s exactly how I see it too.
Although I was happy about the win against Union, I also thought that the win would provide a few weeks’ delay in terms of a significant change (Hopefully Werner will still be on leave for the winter!).
Maybe Bremen will be able to go into the winter with 15+ points under Werner, but for that to happen they need at least two more wins. I think against WOB it will become clear whether something has changed fundamentally or whether Union (like FC and Mainz) was simply a grateful opponent.
But my other question is whether Baumann’s praised transfers this summer were really that good or whether Werner simply refuses to use the players accordingly: Keita has been a complete failure so far (apart from a few good scenes…), Kownacki shows almost no performance (especially compared to the preparation!), Lynen is now completely out of the picture and Stage is doing the 6s (why didn’t they try that out last season before spending several million this summer?), and Borre has had minimal impact with 1 scorer point so far. For me, Deman is the only transfer so far that can be rated as ‘good’ without question.
The question is justified as to whether it wouldn’t have been better to put 2-4 million into the IV. But with Gross, Rapp, and Jung (who actually surprised me in a positive way as LIV!) we finally had enough players for the IV, or what was that like?
Edit: completely forgot that Baumann may of course also be responsible for the free departure of Pavlenka and Weiser. With a squad value of under 90 million and a really tight budget, this is the potential icing on the cake for me. Maybe people will dare to sell Pavlenka for little money this winter before he changes for free in the summer.