FC Bayern’s Hoeneß on Kahn, Salihamidzic & Nagelsmann’s dismissal

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In short… Hoeneß is offended that he wasn’t asked if they can fire Nagelsmann (which he probably saw as well)… and out of offended vanity he pronounced dismissals…

Mr. Hoeneß doesn’t seem to be able to accept the fact that he has nothing to do with the operative business… No wonder nothing works in Munich…

I don’t think it’s all about Hoeneß and his sensitivities. If it’s true that Kahn and Salihamidzic basically planned and decided on Nagelsmann’s resignation without considering Hainer and the supervisory board, then the plan must work. But the way things turned out, Nagelsmann wouldn’t have done it any worse. Only one would not have delivered such a catastrophic public image of the FCB. So the two shouldn’t be surprised if this has consequences. It would also be the case in every normal company that you have to go if you go it alone and go so wrong.

Dismissing a senior employee “bypassing the supervisory board” only causes problems in (former) family businesses where the founder or his descendants are still on the supervisory board and cannot/do not want to let go.

The coach of a football club is not a board member, so the supervisory board has nothing to do with the dismissal. If one of the chief designers at Mercedes is fired, that is also the task of the manager or the board of directors if they report directly to him and the supervisory board is not asked for permission.

But that is exactly the situation at Bayern: Uli Hoeness ran the club for decades with changing presidents and then CEOs like a family business. With spectacular success and employees by his grace. He still doesn’t want to part with it. But he also no longer wants to be officially responsible, which is why he is a “simple” AR member. So 100% the same as you do as a company founder after the children have taken over the shop. You still come into the office every day at 85, express your opinion on everything without being asked and claim to the outsider that you had let go a long time ago.

Yes, Hoeness can’t let go. And yes, Hoeness was no longer the Hoeness of before, especially in the years after his prison visit. He no longer had the standing, wasn’t as good as he used to be. Has shot a few bucks, especially in public, and has behaved exactly as written above, especially in the last 4 years.

But, and I’m often not on his side, but this time he’s just right. He’s just right to dismiss the 2. He basically covered Brazzo for far too long. It takes greatness to correct a mistake that one has held on to so vehemently for so long. Whether he’s telling Brazzo to get the blessing beforehand or not to boost his ego or not. Whether he is the mafia boss from Tegernsee or not, who lets his subjects kiss his hand or not. In that case, we shouldn’t be working on it.

The fact is that Nagelsmann’s dismissal was Bayern’s biggest management mistake in the last 20 years. Not per se the dismissal of Nagelsmann itself, no, above all the timing. Nagelsmann didn’t play a nice TikkiTakka and pulled off weak opponents’ pants. No, Nagelsmann’s football wasn’t pretty to look at, but he was very successful against strong teams. Bayern played a number of strong opponents against the wall. It didn’t always look nice, but it was effective in the important games. And yet I would say that if that hadn’t resulted in titles this season, we could have drawn the consequences and dismissed Nagelsmann. But at the time chosen, that was absolutely wrong and lacking in style. Wrong because that was in the middle of the hot phase. Before the most important games of the season. The team was completely stumped. They didn’t even know what kind of system they were playing under Tuchel. Phlegmatic because insecure. Worse than under Nagelsmann. And that was certainly not because of Tuchel, because he’s a good guy. And it was styleless because there are 1000 moles in Bavaria. But you know that beforehand. Nagelsmann gets that from the press. I’m sorry, what? And all that after weeks before Nagelsmann was praised as the coach for the next decade. Between Brazzo and Nagelsmann felt no sheet of paper fit. And suddenly they’re dismissing him through the press on a skiing holiday? No, that just doesn’t work.

And that’s exactly why Hoeness had to act. Sporting success or not, but this is about more than just succeeding Tegernsee. This was also about a brutal break in the corporate culture. Just the example that Schweini gave back then in the Audi Talk. As a young player at Bayern, he sat in the dressing room next to Kahn. After 3 years, Kahn spoke to him for the first time. After 3 years!!! Scholl also commented on Kahn. That sounded like fear and antipathy. Scholl is an emotional person, Kahn the opposite. I’m sure that Kahn has a lot on the box and that his approach to professionalizing Bayern as a company was right and important. Hoeness didn’t have a computer in the office until the very end. But, from what we know about Kahn, that’s just a cold, hard dog. And while Hoeness was a tough guy, he had a warm heart. And that was ultimately Hoeness’s secret recipe. This is how Bavaria worked. This is how this unspeakable “Mia san Mia” came about.

However. I think Kahn and Brazzo ended up stumbling across Nagelsmanngate. The two would probably still be at the start if they had solved the problem reasonably well with Nagelsmann. Despite their mistakes. Although you haven’t managed to get a defensively thinking 6er in the last few years, even though you started the season without a regular centre-forward. Although important players have been scared away for no reason. Although you could only keep or get players with excessive salaries. Hoeness could have coped with all of that. But the Nagelsmanngate in combination with the desolate performance and the dwindling company culture was too much for him. In this respect he is right to say so.

Ultimately, I found it important to know when Nagelsmann’s dismissal was brought to Hainer and Hoeness. For me, Wednesday means that it was an absolute solo effort. Such a decision MUST be coordinated with Hainer and Hoeness beforehand. Management board, supervisory board, company statutes or not. We’re not at Siemens here. It’s still a medium-sized company. The long-standing manager simply has a say in something like this. Perhaps not with a signing of Tel or the renewal of Choupo Moting. But when Nagelsmann was dismissed, yes. I mean, Hoenes did everything right here. And before the bit by bit leaks out about any moles, he just talks about it in an interview.

Sorry, as much as the Hoenessbashing was appropriate in recent years, I think the interview discussed here and also the decisions about Brazzo and Kahn are really correct. And also the way.

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