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In the air and on land, NATO’s information gathering is going well, but according to the minister, the alliance has too little information for what goes on under the water, especially in the depths. “As for the seas, we only know what happens on the surface. Below that it becomes difficult,” said Pevkur. Sweden and Finland, two countries that want to join NATO, are well equipped in that regard, he says. Pevkur therefore hopes that they will be able to share this information more with NATO in the future.

Pevkur was also asked who was behind the explosions on the pipelines. “Of course we still have to wait for the investigation, we have no proof yet. But the only state that has an interest in the sabotage is Russia,” he said. Russia previously dismissed those accusations as “absurd”. Moscow says Washington is behind the sabotage.

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