DOUBLE INTERVIEW. Elite soldier Fly and professor Jonathan Holslag: “Every soldier knows: Belgium is defenseless in a modern war”

Yes, they know that they will be accused of being a doomsayer, but that doesn’t interest them. Elite soldier Fly (55) and professor Jonathan Holslag (42) are kindred spirits who look at the world order and our country with wide eyes. In their first interview together they put their finger on the wound about the pampering of the youth, how every citizen can cultivate the mindset of the Special Forces, and Belgium’s military position. “You don’t like hearing all that on your pink cloud, do you?”

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