Henri Bontenbal and Jack van Gelder have been in consequences on television about asylum seekers, abortion and his desire to work together with PvdA-GroenLinks. “Isn’t this just extremely idiot?”
The advance of the CDA in the polls looks impressive, but says relatively little since leader Henri Bontenbal has hardly appeared in the media. That changed yesterday: he joined The Oranjezomer. Important, because now it becomes clear whether the public embraces him or whether the revival of his party mainly exists on paper.
“Isn’t about anything!”
Jack van Gelder does not embrace Henri anyway. Their TV clash soon starts when it comes to asylum seekers, because Henri wants to play on a migration balance of 40 to 70 thousand people a year, while Jack wants to go to zero. “That is not about anything at all, guys! We can’t handle it! (…) We are the social drainage of Europe!”
Henri is angry about that: “You make a lot of statements that sometimes just incorrect. If you say:” We are the well where everything goes “… The Netherlands does not take up many more people per head of the population than other European countries. You have to be honest in those stories.”
70,000 euros
The CDA is not strict enough in the field of asylum, says Jack. “We are populated poet and we don’t have the money. We have no money for care, education, housing and police. And what do we say,” Come in! ” There is a Somali family with fifteen children, that costs us 70,000 euros, fantastic! ”
Hostess Hélène Hendriks believes that Henri should not wave this away: “He says this, but this is the feeling of many Dutch people.”
Muslim countries
Jack finds types like Henri too generous. “Why do all Muslims go to Western countries and not to other Muslim countries?”
If Henri indicates that many Muslim countries are hot spots, Jack says: “Indonesia is not a fire. There they can go there!”
Henri: “Yes, but are they allowed there?”
Jack: “Yes, now you indicate it yourself! We say,” Come in! “, Because other countries don’t take them!”
“Extreme idiot!”
Another point of contention is Henri’s dream coalition. If Hélène asks who he wants to work with, he first avoids: “I want a good election results.”
Hélène: “No, that’s bullshit. No, you don’t give an answer.”
Jack Cynisch: “That’s why he gets so many voices.”
Henri: “No, this is really too easy.”
Jack: “He doesn’t give an answer!”
Then Henri indicates that he wants to collaborate with ‘all middle parties’. Does he find GroenLinks-PvdA a middle party? “Yes, I still think so.”
Jack then leans back steeply. “You can’t mean that? The old PvdA, okay, but GroenLinks? Isn’t that just extremely idiot?”
“Extreme idiot!”
Henri also arouses annoyance if he does not want to say what the CDA wants with childcare. Table guest Job Knoester: “I think that is such a weak bite. In two months the elections will be and then you will now say:” You’re going to see that “? You know what is going on?”
The politician: “I come up with a program written by a committee.”
Jack stays on the previous topic: “I think you are a very nice guy, that’s not the point, I think it’s only remarkable that you don’t find PvdA-Groenlinks too left.”
Wilders’ Tweet
Geert Wilders makes himself heard during the advertising block. He writes on X: “CDA wants migration balance 70,000 a year, BBB wants 15,000 asylum seekers a year. They completely destroy the Netherlands. Only the PVV says: Null asylum seekers there! The Netherlands is full!”
Twitter politics, says Henri. Jack: “Henri, but someone is twittering and you shouldn’t do that, you say, but you are talking about 70,000 asylum seekers. I think the Netherlands is going crazy. Make sure the people who have built up the country since 1945. If you say 70,000 asylum seekers … (…) Yes, between 40 and 70 thousand, that’s ridiculous.”
“Not ridiculous!”
Henri finds 40 to 70 thousand people – so many people live in Assen – there is fine every year: “No, that’s not ridiculous! We have a whole state committee that has done a whole study of it.”
Jack: “Take me: if a referendum comes tomorrow, you will be beaten up.”
Finally, the gentlemen also clash over abortion. All in all a pretty tough broadcast, which also releases a lot on X.
The conclusion of talk show expert Victor Vlam? He writes on X: “Henri Bontenbal makes the classic mistake: as long as I keep talking, I am convincing. It was woolly, lengthy and at times esoteric. Politics is ultimately yes or no. The voter is entitled to a concrete story.”