Olcay Gulsen finds Onno Hoes, the man of Albert Verlinde, a horrible man. After their confrontation at the Oranjezomer, she left the studio crying. “How can you be one to someone like that?”
It was a large TV clash three months ago: Olcay Gulsen and Onno Hoes were at the table at the Oranjezomer directly opposite each other about the war in Gaza (see excerpt below). Onno is of Jewish descent, while Olcay is particularly concerned about the Palestinian people. In retrospect she thinks she has not been hard enough.
Really furious
Olcay looks back on that broadcast with dissatisfaction. “I was very angry with myself after that broadcast. Yes, I was really furious. I also cried in the car and I can cry again when I think about it, because he literally said:” Yes, you are talking about those people in Palestine and yes, it will all, I have nothing to do with those people. “
She continues in the podcast Lightless Lounge: “He said that literally,” I don’t have that much with that. ” That I did not stop when that broadcast and said, “How can you go to someone like that you say: I don’t have that much with that.”
“How can you do it?”
Onno shows himself from his inhuman side here, says Olcay. “You are talking about women and children, you are a mayor and you have to be there for everyone, regardless of religion and color. You also fall for men once again. Like no other, you should know that this is not okay what you say?”
“That they are being killed, being hunted, being starved and you say,” Yes, yes, I don’t have that much with those people, “how can you get it out of your mouth? So I was really just very angry about that.”
Bomb explode
In retrospect, Olcay thinks she has failed here as a talk show guest. She thinks she should have gotten more against Albert Verlinde’s husband.
“I had the idea that I should have exploded a bomb there. It is just said just and nobody looks at or around and there I am a bit shocked.”
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