Nikkie de Jager thinks it is very faint that today’s prominent figures do not show themselves on other stages. Her right hand Wes van Os, for example, points to Hélène Hendriks. “Big mouth!”
In the latest episode of the Nikkie de Jager podcast Lightless Lounge Quite grumbled about today inside. The main guest is Olcay Gulsen and she was more or less sent away from the program, because Johan Derksen thinks she should apologize to Wierd Duk. She has called him a ‘passionate racist’.
No more olcay
Olcay is no longer asked for VI, she says. “No, what I think is fine, because I don’t want to be somewhere where they don’t want me.”
She likes that she never started to joined the VI-trio on the right. “I just stayed with myself. They still asked me, but then I said:” If one of the men doesn’t want me at the table, it’s their show, then I will not force myself. “
Two camps
It is a shame that VI is not open to its more progressive opinion, says Olcay. “You can see that there is very extreme in two camps in the Netherlands in the Netherlands. They also listen very little to each other.”
Wes van Os, the right hand of Nikkie, believes that VI is maintaining. “We make a podcast and we also try to invite people from time to time, but with a slightly different sound instead of being accused of a bubble, but everyone says no from the other bubble. A bit of the Hélène Hendriksen, but also all those men.”
Beak
Olcay finds that faint of Hélène and the VI team. “They don’t dare.”
Wes: “You ask them all with the same openness, but they don’t want that. Then you will also maintain it if you don’t keep talking to each other.”
Olcay: “They really don’t dare.”
Nikkie: “They really have a big mouth, but when it comes to it …”
Safe environment
Olcay thinks it’s cowardly. “Yes. They are there in a safe environment, you can never lose them and they always stand up for each other, making it very unfair, you understand? It is always very driven. If you sit there on your own and you think differently, they will by definition open the attack.”
Finally, Nikkie: “My biggest annoyance at VI is really that people who then go along so to fall into the tone and to be liked. Ugh!”