The NPO has decided to protect Jeroen Pauw against his greatest threat: Sam Hagens. He can also continue in 2026 with the successor to Bar Laat. “They awarded that.”

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Jeroen Pauw wants to leave the bar late drama behind now that Sophie Hilbrand has been put out by their boss Bnnvara. Together with Tim de Wit he will make the successor: Pauw & De Wit. For the time being the men were only in the schedule for this year and that is why the current summer duo Sam Hagens and Welmoed Sijtsma seemed to be an outright threat.

Until the end of 2026

If Sam scored better, then Jeroen’s position might be endangered. But what turns out? Jeroen has already received a commitment for the whole of 2026.

His boss Suzanne Kunzeler says in the Varagids: “We look forward to the new program with confidence and we also get that confidence from the NPO: we have been awarded for a year and a half, until the end of 2026.”

A little more RTL?

At the moment, Humberto Tan’s late RTL talk show is the most viewed talk show of the country. The new editor of Pauw & De Wit comes from RTL; He was active for Renze Klamer until recently.

Suzanne about that: “A number of people left Bar Late, and we had to look for a new editor, among other things. There is not much behind it. (…) We have pulled hard to get a good editor, who has experience with late night, and those people are sown thinly.”

Bosom

If an RTL-Man starts to wave the scepter, is it still BNNVARA enough? “We make this from the bosom of our broadcaster. The deputy editor-in-chief of this program has worked for a long time at Kassa, there is a very large own editors. It is also about the craftsmanship, and that takes such an editor-in-chief.”

“We speak with him, the team and the presenters of course about the tone and sound of BNNVARA. And above all, that tone translates into a good quality and important talk show, in keeping with the long tradition of the broadcaster.”

Not a woman

It has surprised many people that the successor to Sophie has become a white man. Tim is certainly not a woman. “No, certainly not. Tim has been at Bar Laat for two months, he did well. And he will certainly do well again.”

Suzanne de Bazin concludes: “That does not mean that we do not have the ambition to show more diversity in the future.”

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