Mark Baanders has completely freaked out at Renze Klamer’s talk show table because Angela de Jong doesn’t like his programs. “All I see is you drinking wine.”
There are people who see quite a bit of potential in Mark Baanders, but his programs have been poor so far and he also appears to have long toes. And with the latter you definitely won’t make yourself popular with the masses, because celebrities with long toes? We really have had enough of that. Last night the presenter made himself known RENZE.
Bad reviews
Mark made a very poorly watched program about his desired fatherhood – 86 thousand viewers, yes – and according to Angela de Jong that was very justified. She wrote a scathing piece about it in the fall. “It’s mainly a lot of Mark that we get to see,” she sneered. And especially a Mark who is ‘hanging over a glass of chardonnay again’.
Funny enough, the two sat side by side at Renze Klamer’s table: Mark was there as a sidekick, Angela to talk about the NPO cuts. “If you ask Angela, I would be cut back, because the last two programs I made were incredibly poorly reviewed…” Mark suddenly shouts.
Very unfortunate
Initially, Mark is light-hearted about it. “Both, those were my first two programs, a really bad review… That’s just a shame, because you think it’s nice that you’re making it.”
Angela still strongly supports it. “Yes, I can’t do anything about that, but I wish you some better programs, but I think the NPO should also make better choices. You can’t tell me why that… What was that monstrosity called last Christmas?”
Joie de vivre
This is about Serious Christmas, the only program that managed to make Natasja Froger angry. Mark: “Yes, Serious Christmas. A bit of a joke joie de vivre in a nice Christmas program… Christmas is something for everyone… But it doesn’t matter, because you can just find it very bad.”
Angela: “We already had De Alleskunner VIPS and we now received De Alleskunner VIPS with a Christmas sauce from the NPO. You have to make really fun programs and make beautiful programs…”
Mark: “I won’t get the chance if you keep reviewing so poorly!”
Against it
A bad program gets a bad review, Angela explains. “Yes, but then with all due respect you also have to make slightly better programs. I can’t do anything about that either.”
Mark: “I made a documentary and that is something I say: that seems important to me. About having children if you and your partner are unable to do so, that I let everyone look over my shoulder to see how such a search went.”
To the wine
Angela then touches on a sore point. “I am all for programs in which gays explore their options for having children, but I had the strong impression that you were also sponsored, but by a certain wine brand, because you only saw yourself drinking wine on screen. . So yeah…”
There is laughter in the studio, but guess what? That excessive drinking turns out to be a sore point for Mark, who just wants to take a sip of wine. From that moment on he is very irritated. “Do you know what it is? In the end I just think… Yeah, never mind, I don’t feel like…
‘Disappointed’
The truth is hard, Angela then wants to say. “It just wasn’t a very strong program. In terms of content, it was just hugely disappointing.”
Mark: “Your opinion is, as Plato once said, just like an ass: everyone has one. That’s fine. It’s not that my program is bad, it’s that you think my program is bad. And that is your right.”
Angela: “But apparently you think so highly of that. So apparently you make that opinion very important.”
‘DON’T SIT ME HIGH!’
Mark then starts to deny by raising his voice that it does anything to him. “No, it doesn’t bother me! What matters is that you explain to me very clearly that my program is bad and that is not the case. You think he’s bad. My program wasn’t bad.”
Angela cheats: “How many people were watching, Mark?”
Mark angrily: “Okay, never mind.”
Renze is surprised
Host Renze Klamer is amazed by Mark’s long toes. “You can also think… Angela doesn’t decide whether the program will continue on the public broadcaster, right?”
Mark: “I don’t want one that big either…”
Angela: “But apparently I really touched you with that review.”
Mark: “No, I was joking about it at first, but if you keep saying: ‘Your program is bad’, then yes, it isn’t…”
Angela: “In terms of content, it was not good enough for a program on the public broadcaster. Sorry. I thought so.”
Respect
Mark comes to his senses. “Well, okay, respect to you if you don’t think so. Then that may be your opinion. Just like everyone is allowed to have an opinion.”
Angela: “Luckily.”
Renze: “And then you make a season two and maybe you’ll blow her away and maybe you won’t. You can also make great programs without Angela approving them, right?”
Mark: “It doesn’t really matter to me. I started it as a joke. It’s no big deal.”
Renze: “Okay, we’ll bury the joke. Happy ending to the broadcast. We’re going to have a drink here!”