Ben van der Burg is clearly pissed off at his loose-lipped RTL Tonight colleague Lale Gül. According to talk show host Renze Klamer, he is now on his guard around her: “He never says anything anymore.”
It is a remarkable moment in the RTL Tonight from Tuesday evening: Lale Gül who casually reveals what Ben van der Burg told her just before the broadcast about Mei Li Vos, the new chairman of the Senate. “Did you think Lale could make that?”, Thomas van Groningen asks himself a day later, that is, yesterday, in Today Inside.
Not so chic
Raymond Mens doesn’t think Lale is that chic. “It may not have been very nice, but she does bring spice to that show and if you discuss that just before the show, it may be that… Yes…”
The sewing area in question? Lale betrays Ben by throwing his backstage chatter into the living rooms. She says: “Do you know what I just heard from Ben? That he used to work with Mei Li Vos and that everyone thought she was very stupid back then.”
It leads to a deathly silence for Ben. Lale: “I just heard that.”
Am bashing
Host Renze Klamer sees Ben’s discomfort. “Okay, are you just wrapping Ben here?”
Ben: “Yes, you’re bashing Ben again.”
Lale: “No, you heard that from others back then, right? That’s interesting information.”
Ben: “Yes, but a very long time ago.”
Renze: “You’re about to be thrown under the bus.”
Ben: “Yes, it was a long time ago, I worked with her for a few weeks.”
No success
Renze then asks further. “Okay, and that wasn’t a success?”
Ben: “Yeah, well, I worked with her for a few weeks and not longer, so…”
Renze: “What’s happening here all of a sudden, guys?”
Frits Wester: “What did you think of her?”
Ben: “I didn’t work with her directly.”
Frits: “You’ve only heard things about her?”
Ben: “Yes, well, she was one of the colleagues, but not directly in the way I work with Lale now.”
‘Never again!’
Renze thinks Ben is really pissed off at Lale. “I don’t think Ben Lale will ever say anything again.”
Lale: “Yes, I thought it was very interesting information. Yes, if all your colleagues think you are stupid and you are now a member of the Senate, yes, I think that is worth sharing. Yes, sorry Ben.”
Wilfred Genee responds laughing in VI: “I have the feeling that Ben doesn’t like it!”
Classic mistake
Ben had better be more discreet just before a TV broadcast, says Johan Derksen. “It’s a classic mistake. You see it all the time: you say something terrible behind the scenes and then someone repeats it.”
Colleague Raymond Mens: “I understand that Ben doesn’t like it, but Lale naturally thinks: there needs to be a bit of spice in that show.”
René van der Gijp concludes: “But Ben doesn’t have to take it that way, right? He can also put it into perspective a bit.”