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Chilling images in trial of Vlaardingen foster girl: ‘It’s like a bone in my throat’
The second day of the hearing started with the hearing of experts. This shows that the risk of recurrence is considered high. “If they are together with children, the risk of recurrence is even very high,” said a psychiatrist from the Pieter Baan Center (PBC).
The experts from the PBC will explain their findings. In addition, the mothers of the foster girl and the Syrian brothers make use of the right to speak.
The Public Prosecution Service will hold the indictment in the afternoon. The sentencing requirements will be announced later in the day.
The psychiatrist’s interrogation is finished. Now it’s the psychologist’s turn.
The psychiatrist says he does not know the entire report by heart, but says that Daisy W. can find the examples there. Daisy W. says that the people close to her were not heard, but relatives of Johnny vd B. were.
The psychiatrist says that people constantly get into conflict around Daisy W. “As if she outsources her aggression to others, who then get into a fight.” Daisy W. wants to hear concrete examples.
“You hope when people enter treatment that they will become more open about their motivations,” says the psychiatrist. Then the risk of recurrence can also be better assessed.
“We don’t have radar eyes. We have to make do with what people tell us,” says the psychiatrist.
Johnny vd B. is very sensitive to “contextual factors”, as a result of which he can become aggressive and the risk of recurrence is high, says the psychiatrist. And through TBS with conditions, less control is possible.
The psychiatrist believes that there are currently too few guarantees for the imposition of TBS with conditions. She says that TBS with compulsory treatment offers more guarantees.
Lawyer Aerts says that Johnny vd B. has now also adhered to conditions, hasn’t he? She believes that the lighter TBS with conditions if that does not work can also be converted into compulsory nursing.
Johnny vd B. has no insight into what he is like and how he works in regulating his aggression. For that reason, TBS with conditions is not an option as far as the psychiatrist is concerned. This requires awareness of illness.
Johnny vd B. cannot avoid his wife’s appeal, says the psychiatrist.
It is clear that Aerts would like to hear that the psychiatrist says that the risk of recurrence for Johnny vd B. is not that high if he is no longer with Daisy and does not have foster children. She wants to get rid of the TBS advice with compulsory treatment for Johnny vd B.
Lawyer Aerts continues to outline a hypothetical situation in the future. “If this…then that.” But the psychiatrist cannot answer that.
The psychiatrist says that it is obvious that Johnny vd B., if he were to have a new relationship, would look for a woman like Daisy W.. “Someone he can save and support.”
The chance that foster children will be placed with the couple again is “not that great”, says lawyer Aerts. Does the psychiatrist still stick to the advice of TBS with compulsory treatment for Johnny vd B.?
The psychiatrist cannot answer that hypothetical question. In her research she had to start from the situation as it was.
If Johnny vd B. were no longer together with Daisy W. and were no longer in the same situation, what is the risk of recurrence, Aerts asks? The risk of recurrence is high, says the psychiatrist. When they are together with children, this is even very high.
Johnny vd B. is really “crazy about Daisy W.”, says the psychiatrist.
Lawyer Silke Aerts of Johnny vd B. can now ask questions. The psychiatrist spoke to him 8 times. Once he did not show up because he had had an unpleasant conversation with the psychologist on the day his wife was leaving the Pieter Baan Center.
Could Daisy W.’s fear that something would happen to her own daughter have contributed to Johnny vd B.’s disorder? The psychiatrist: “I can’t quickly explain how that could be.”
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