In an interview that quickly went viral, Andrés “Duka” Ducatenzeiler – former president of Independiente and today host and content creator – starred in an unexpected crossover with Juan Grabois. Duka, which broadcasts on Carnaval Stream on Mondays and Fridays from 9 p.m. to 1 a.m., highlighted Javier Milei’s attitude during the campaign, generating a moment of confusion and tension live.
“The only guy I saw face stones, go everywhere and get spit on, get mistreated by the media… was Milei,” said the streamer. Grabois, believing the phrase was about him, responded quickly: “Oh, yeah?” But Duka moved forward: “I saw Milei being beaten with stones and he left.” The social leader reacted: “Eh eh… eh? Didn’t you see me fighting?” Duka clarified: “I’m not talking about you.” Grabois’s final phrase closed the awkward moment: “Talk about me because you were talking to me. I don’t want to talk about others who aren’t there.”
The episode hit a nerve. Grabois has also faced political hostility: he was rebuked in the street, insulted on social networks and questioned by opposition media. For him, that experience is a central part of his public and militant career. Therefore, hearing that this recognition was for Milei—his direct rival—disconcerted him.
Beyond the specific exchange, the scene reflects a change in the political ecosystem: debates no longer happen only in traditional studios, but also in streams where the conversation is less formal and more spontaneous. And it showed a symbolic dispute that runs through the political climate: who can claim the legitimacy of having “stuck the streets” and resisted public hostility. This time, the unexpected praise for Milei left Grabois silent and generated a gesture of discomfort that was recorded for thousands of viewers.
