Claudia de Breij does not like that Johan Derksen called her ‘that lady’ on television, because the two know each other. “He might want to make something clear to the viewer.”
A TV chat between Eva Jinek and Claudia de Breij caused a lot of criticism last month, because people found the conversation quite hallucinatory. They accused the comedian of being unworldly, because she had once seen ‘real life’ in the Efteling amusement park. In the evening Johan Derksen also went over it again Today Inside.
Mrs. Claudia
Johan has been annoyed by Claudia for some time now, especially her columns in the VARA guide. According to him, that TV magazine has deteriorated considerably. “It has become a kind of Volkskrant light with Claudia de Breij as a columnist and every week I am annoyed by her, because the Netherlands has voted right-wing and nothing worse can happen to Mrs. De Breij.”
“Now she has actually been from the canal belt to the mob in De Efteling! (…) This lady belongs to the elitist left-wing bubble and writes pedantic pieces from her attic room.”
‘That person’
Not only did Johan call the comedian ‘that lady’ and ‘this lady’, but also ‘that person’, and that all goes down the wrong way with Claudia. She bites back at what he so satirizes VARA guide. “Johan Derksen recently told me at the table at VI that he reads my column, and suddenly called me ‘that lady’.”
“Which is quite strange, because we know each other a little and he knows my name, but that is perhaps to make it clear to the viewer that he wants nothing, absolutely nothing to do with me and certainly does not look like me . While of course we look very much alike.”
Contrary and progressive
Why do Claudia and Johan look alike? “Both originally a bit contrary and progressive (Derksen taught his daughter about the importance of Martin Luther King and other greats), both a bit disappointed in the politics of the past decades, both perhaps with a different interpretation of how things should be done. .”
“But Johan acts angry and probably hopes that I act angry in return, because that is good for a few minutes of content at the table. What is successful today, on social and ancient media, is outrage, is the magnified contradiction. We are all online rage bait We have become so used to it that we no longer expect anything else.”
Coffee
According to Claudia, it is time for fraternization. “It might be nice to get off all those social media and get back into the real world with all those people who you know very well are more than that small part of them that annoys you so much. .”
“Johan, any coffee?”
Fragment
The fragment in which Johan lashes out at Claudia: