It is absolutely not well what they are all about on the other side of the ocean. She believes that Donald Trump is going to be a good thing against people like them. “It’s war.”

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Raven van Dorst has just returned from the United States, where she traveled as a umpteenth TV star to include a travel program. That country is only starting to become very grim because of the Donald Trump chosen as president, says them. They visibly got angry about it in the talk show Bar late.

Raven delivered

It is quite a shock, according to Raven. “Of course. What is going on is now with that whole thing against the LGBTIQA community, or at least the trans and intersexcommunity that I also part of, that is very sad and also very scary. But yes, I think: this is just the beginning. Women’s rights are also on the way there. “

Presenter Tim de Wit: “You are intersekse and non-binary, of course you talked a lot about that. Does it also do something with you personally when you hear what Trump is planning? ”

Evaporate

Yes, says Raven. “Under Biden we went into the country and during the inauguration we were filming the episode in Las Vegas, so we were following that from: what is happening around you? At one point you hear him say: “Yes, in America there are only men and women from now on,” and I felt a kind of evaporation. “

“I was suddenly no longer there, I suddenly no longer existed, while I am really sitting here. You can say that it no longer exists, but trans- and intersex people have always been there and will always be there. We will always be there, so you can’t draw that on an f*cking paper. “

Over -headed

Political reporter Elodie Verweij asks himself if Raven is scared. “Are you sometimes afraid that it is overwent to the Netherlands?”

Raven: “Yes, but it is already here?”

Elodie: “Yes, but less strong than in America anyway.”

Raven: “Yes, I don’t know. If you sometimes see sentiment online … there are already many hateful messages in between. ”

Woke nonsense

Eva Koreman points out that we also have a kind of Trump in the Netherlands. “And the party that most people voted for calls it openly ‘woke nonsense’, people like Raven.”

Raven: “I don’t understand what you are afraid of, you know. Why are you as a country so afraid of that? No transgender is out to make your life kutter. Nobody from that whole f*cking community. People only want equal rights. There has been a fight for years and that is suddenly denied to them all. “

Big

It is horrible, Raven concludes. “Don’t know. I see it as a great thing to put the people against each other and then get away with the capital myself. ”

“He said last night that transgender people are not even allowed to go to the country anymore. That is what he said last night. I think that is also violence. A kind of. Isn’t that just political violence this? It is a declaration of war on that community. I also came from America with a completely different feeling than I went into it. “

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