The start of the talk show De Oranjewinter started with a big clash between regular guests René van der Gijp and Johan Derksen. The two could not find each other in their opinion of Matthijs van Nieuwkerk. The discussion derailed at one point, with them accusing each other of ‘talking at the back of their necks’.
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786,000 viewers see Oranjewinter kick off with a clash between Derksen and Gijp: ‘No, you are talking out of your neck’
