In the podcast Afhameren with political commentator Wouter de Winther and presenter Pim Sedee, the gentlemen discuss the issue of cuts to social security. They look, among other things, at the role of D66 minister Hans Vijlbrief. De Winther finds it amusing to see how the imaging tactics of D66 have been adopted by JA21 and are being used against Vijlbrief. The podcast can be listened to here.

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