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No matter how much people disagree with each other, you should always keep talking to each other. This is what editor-in-chief Rennie Rijpma says in the A.Dpodcast It’s not rightin which this site followed two people from the waking world for a year. “I think it is good that they follow us and other media critically. We learn from their observations and questions.”

People who see themselves as awake or aware often have a great distrust of the mainstream media (MSM), such as it A.Dthe NOS and RTL. They believe that the MSM are not critical enough of the government and therefore get their news from alternative and social media, such as Telegram.

It is one of the topics in the AD podcast It’s not rightin which two reporters follow Koen and Babette, two people from the waking world, for a year. In episode 4 of the podcast, Koen and Babette talk to AD editor-in-chief Rennie Rijpma.


In that conversation, they ask, among other things, how Rijpma looks back on the AD’s reporting during the corona pandemic. “After the pandemic, we had Utrecht University conduct research into our reporting during that period,” says Rijpma. “One of the conclusions from that research was that, especially at the beginning of the pandemic, we were quite compliant in reporting what the government said. In retrospect, I think we asked too few critical questions, such as: is this all correct? Everyone was surprised by what happened during that period.”

The university’s research therefore recommends that from now on, the editorial staff appoint a group of journalists as counter-readers for such major topics. “Colleagues who do not write about the subject every day, but who do ask critical and obligatory questions that well-informed people no longer ask.”

You can hear more of the conversation in episode 4 ‘framing’. A major turnaround in the lawsuit against Neeltje, a friend of Koen and Babette, is also discussed: what does it mean for them that Neeltje says in court that after 13 years she has ‘stepped out of her bubble full of lies and conspiracies’?

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