The television crowd between Raymond Mens and Frank Lammers in the De Oranjezomer program has continued backstage. “The conclusion was: we are not going to find each other,” said the Americanner.
Last Wednesday, the two gentlemen sat side by side by the Oranjezomer: Frank Lammers and Raymond Mens. It led to a tough confrontation, because the actor believes that the American cidemy is too positive about US President Donald Trump. According to Raymond, however, he is the one who is neutral and his most colleagues are anti-Trump.
Backstage
Thomas van Groningen asks himself in The Friday Move Right how it ended between the two gentlemen. “Did you really make up for Frank Lammers?
Raymond then: “No, but that was not really necessary for me either. I have to say: in the commercial break it went on and the conclusion was: yes, we will not find each other. He wants to constantly judge, while I always think: yes, I will tell you what is going on, then you can make a judgment yourself. And he did.”
Take seriously
Frank believes that Raymond takes the president too seriously. “That is not necessarily – because he fills that up again – because I am a fan or something. I mean: apart from Bruce Springsteen I love few people. Very perhaps Bill Clinton, the president of my childhood. But he is the president of the United States, someone with a lot of power.”
You have to take such a person seriously by definition, Raymond believes. “In fact, it is someone – that is often the discussion – that stretches that power considerably.”
Rare
Thomas tries to continue poking the fire – very well. “What do you think of such a Frank Lammers, who actually rages quite a bit?”
Raymond: “Yes, why I also said to him:” Go suck on your thumb, “is because he was talking in between, I will say.”
Thomas: “But what do you think of such a well -known person, he is an actor, who actually says quite rigorously:” Such an idiot, he hits nonsense, “and who doesn’t want to hear anything else actually?”
‘I think it’s fine’
Strange, Raymond thinks so. “Well, the latter is what I think is crazy. I think everything is fine, because someone can also find Trump a complete idiot. (…) Only where it goes wrong is that he says that I have to find that too, and that you can no longer take it seriously. While I think: yes, I only try to explain what is happening.”
He concludes: “Yes, I always stay calm. The only thing I think is: you try to go in a direction where you can never go, namely that I have to say on television:” Trump doesn’t bother “, or:” Trump is fantastic “. Both you never hear me say.”
Fragment
The bright discussion on TV: