What I also ask myself: If you are ready to take so much money in your hand – why didn’t there be a rumor to Paul Nebel?
Wohlgemuth actually likes German players. Nebel’s achievements at the U21 tournament were brilliant. It has a very similar strengthening/weakness profile such as millotic. Millot has taken on the running role of Endo.
Konstantelias would have to bring exactly this ability – otherwise the transfer would be critical for this reason alone.
And fog? Mainz plays a comparable role like Millot with us – both when it comes to the rooms that he occupies and his tasks in it. In addition, we could probably offer him a higher salary and a higher international competition. He also already has Bundesliga experience.
In this price range there would certainly be other sensible options. Fog was just the first name that I came up with – but that’s why I wonder: Why didn’t even have a single rumor?
Which price range do you speak of? The article is about 18MI, even for the double sum, Mainz would not even lose the phone when it comes to Paul Nebel.
I also thought. For Paul Nebel, Stuttgart could probably forward most of the Woltemade to Mainz. He has long since outgrown Stuttgart.
I just answer both at the same time. Hope you don’t feel that I am. It is about 18 million + 3 million bonuses, so probably a total of 21 million fog is currently rated on transfermarkt.de with 24 million-both are not so far apart. Even if this is not meaningful.
The Conference League is apparently a minus business for Bundesliga clubs. At least that was reported to BVB in the past. At Union, too, you could hear similar tones from Ruhnert’s statements. So you shouldn’t be blinded by it – in the sense of: Mainz now swims in money just because they play Conference League. Even if in the end a few million get stuck – I don’t think there would be such articles, statements or debates if the bottom line was that double -digit amounts would come out.
At the same time, Mainz, economically, stands very solidly and is not dependent on sales – at least as far as I can judge this as an outside.
With the 40 million you mentioned: If he had become the top transfer from the club history. Would such a offer really been necessary? Who knows. One thing is clear: an offer should have been over the 21 million.
The statement by Bo Henriksen that fog can be “sold for 80 million next year” was meant as far as I could see with a wink. So too, you shouldn’t be blinded by it.
What I didn’t know yet: fog said in May – quote:
“I’ve only been back for a year, signed a new contract at the time and I feel at home.”
This was seen as a clear commitment to whereabouts – also from a Mainz perspective. And honestly: it sounds like that for me. An association like VfB will hardly have any realistic chances to change it. Of course, this significantly changes the starting point.
Incidentally, this statement also has the reason why I would not have seen him in the “40-Mio-Plus” category: it was his first real Bundesliga season. Before that two years in the 2nd league, commuting between the second team and professional squad. And: He didn’t play CL last season and won’t do it next season – that often gives you a bonus again. But that’s just my personal perception.
To get to the point: For me, the realistic frame is 25–30 million + 1–4 million bonuses-roughly at Gruda level. Perhaps it is even comparable to the Woltemade case: Mainz calls 60 million internally, although it is not worth the lens – simply because they do not have to sell and do not want to sell. And that is exactly what you would have found out when asked.
And let’s be honest: the Stuttgart newspapers are sitting in the same office as the VfB managers. Even if the thought had arisen to consider fog as an option – there would have been a rumor.
And that is ultimately my point: I’m not talking about an offer. I’m not even talking about an inquiry. But not even a thought of it? That just surprised me.
In addition, one should not forget: The contractual relationship of Millot has not only been known since yesterday. What I mean by this: Without the U21 European Championship and in the middle of the second half of the season, we might not have had to think in these price regions.
In any case, I personally would be more comfortable at the idea of output 25–32 million for a player,
* where you know what you get
* who needs a little familiarization period (language, league, playing style),
* and the further development potential brings with you … as 21 million for a player in which one focuses primarily on the development potential.
But of course that is an individual consideration – depending on what is more important to you in the squad building.
Whether there would have been a transfer at all is on a completely different sheet. But: I would have expected at least one rumor in this constellation.
And just to make it clear: Would I have been cheers if you had actually output 26–34 million for fog? Probably not. Not because I don’t like fog or think it is overestimated – but because VfB spent a lot of money last season last season for players who can hardly be sold to comparable sums.
But again: that’s not what this was about.