Episode seven of the seven-part NRC podcast This is our country. Do you want to listen earlier episodes? Then look for this is our country in your podcast app and immediately listen further.

Ahmed Yousef was an advisor to Hamas leader Ismail Haniyeh for many years. From a tent camp in Gaza he talks about the ideological foundation of Hamas, the tactic of violence, and why ‘October 7’ was an estimation error in his eyes. A look into a controversial movement that is more than a terrorist organization.

Presentation:
Ruben Pest & Derk Walters
Editors:
Felicia Alberding & Esmee Dirks
Music, assembly and mixage:
Bas van Win & Jeroen Jaspers
Final editing:
Anna Korterink
Production:
Rhea Stroink
Promotion:
Ruben Baudoin
Thanks to:
Taghreed El-Khodary, Sami al-Ajrami, Lian Hof, Pauke van den Heuvel, Mirjam van Zuidam & Danielle Pinedo
Illustration:
Lynne Brouwer
Design:
Yannick Mortier




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