Martín Tetaz on Máximo Kirchner: “he has an alleged superiority over the rest”

Martin Tetaz says that Madariaga is the best meat in the Province. Some might think that it is a compliment that he does just to look good with the person who is cooking the barbecue that he is going to eat after the interview with NOTICIAS, but the brand new radical deputy knows what he is talking about. It is that he is the son of a Madagarian, the town where the barbecue and the note take place, as well as being the place where he spent part of his childhood.

It is true that they are not all pleasant memories: Tetaz, when he was little, went to live there because his parents suffered an attack by Triple A in La Plata, where they had a bookstore with readings from the left seventies, and they had to take refuge in their hometown for a year and a half. In fact, it was on that transitory return to Madariaga that his brother, who was only four years old, died of poorly treated meningitis.

But on the night of Friday the 14th, in addition to the past and a great meal, there is also room for politics and debate. In that they were the economist with the local host, the mayor Stephen Santoro, when this magazine arrived and the recorder was turned on.

News: How do you live your debut as a deputy?

Martin Tetaz: I prepared myself for years studying the problems of Argentina and thinking of solutions, so I live it naturally. In addition, this Congress is going to get interesting, because suddenly López Murphy, Milei, Espert entered, people with a lot of media coverage and training. Now the Chamber has a rating, and people have the most focus on what happens there. Before the politician could be more divorced from reality and now people do not tolerate that.

News: And the historians of the Chamber, how did they receive it? Massa? Maximum?

bigtits: We are dangerous Miley, the López Murphys, the Tetaz: since we don’t know the old practices, we can go forward just by looking at the regulations. Massa is the second strongest political animal in the jungle, after CFK. It’s Frank Underwood from House of Cards. Everything good and bad about that character, everything ruthless, unscrupulous and fast about him is Massa. there are weird things how the Chamber works, for example the role of Maximo KirchnerAnd this is nothing personal. He has no dealings with the majority of the deputies and he doesn’t go to the sessions, he only comes down to close or to whisper something in the ear of Massa, Moreau or Heller, the only ones he talks to. Has a claimed superiority over the rest, must have to do with sucking the worst of politics.

News: How does the UCR continue, after the breakup of the bloc and the strong discussions?

bigtits: Two of the six strong presidential candidates for 2023 are radicals, Lousteau and Morales, and prepare to win and rule. What happened in the Chamber is that we noted that there was a renewal within the party, and that it seemed to us that this renewal had to be noted in the Chamber as well. We come from a time when the UCR was in the back seat compared to the PRO, it had a voice but little vote. today andhe radicalism disputes power in many places, as a result of the new enthusiasm that there is. That generated a discussion, but it does not mean that we broke up neither Together for Change nor the UCR, which was demonstrated in the election of the UCR authorities where there was a unity list where our space participates.

News: But it was not just a parliamentary debate. Lousteau spoke of the UCR as a “misogynistic party.”

bigtits: One can do a lot of criticism and it’s okay to do so. Argentina is misogynistic, the spaces are dominated by men, but it is a reality that luckily is changing. And we also have to look inside the party. Now yes we are a modern party, now we are embracing the idea of ​​the massive participation of women.

News: But Losteau and Morales almost punched each other to death.

bigtits: They are discussions. Let’s banish from now on the romantic version of politics, it’s not Los Ingalls. We are putting together a broad coalition, trying to amalgamate positions that have a guiding line but that also have differences.

News: How is the space alliance with Larreta?

Tetaz: It is a space that began in dispute with the City government. But at one point the rival becomes more important than the discussions between us, and now we work together on a political project that thinks about ending Kirchnerism, a decision that generated the possibility of working together and today radicalism co-governs the City. Look, here you have the title: in the next election the UCR will have a competitive candidate in the City, and in the Province and in the Nation.

Labyrinth

One of the novelties of the end of 2021 was the rupture of the UCR bloc in Deputies, which commanded the space it leads Martin Lousteau and where Martín Tetaz is one of the figures. NOTICIAS revealed in an edition the role of stainless steel “Coti” Nosiglia in that armed and in that dispute, although Tetaz denies it. “It had nothing to do with it. Next question”.

News: What is the role of “Coti” in space?

bigtits: Evolution has three heads: John Nosiglia, Emiliano Yacobitti and Lousteau. Juan is Nosiglia but he is Juan. If you think that all the attributes and everything are inherited from a father to his son, well, that’s it, but I always say that those who see a ghost should know Juan, should they see him in the military. How much of that militancy did he suck from his father? I guess he must have learned something. How far is the father behind him? I saw Nosiglia father twice, I think, in my entire life.

News: One of the great revelations of the campaign was your interventions with the t-shirts. How did it occur to you?

bigtits: It was made by a person who was Lanata producer before, and now he works with me. Look how interesting it is: this demonstrates the logic of communication and why traditional politics is so wrong. The rating of the debate (ndr: with Carlos Heller in the program “A dos vozs”) had not been good, but the moment of the t-shirt laughed against manliness, and ended up being one of the most watched in TN. I prepared a lot of time for that debate, I am convinced that I demolished it topic by topic, but nobody talked about the argumentative question of the debate: everyone stayed with the image of the T-shirt, and that is a formidable communication lesson.

News: Did the protagonist of the shirt say something to you?

bigtits: Yes, Macri sent me a message the other day, laughing at what had happened and congratulating me on the disruptive nature of what I was doing, because it also encouraged me to come up with ideas.

News: What’s the next shirt?

bigtits: I haven’t thought of it yet, but communication always has to be disruptive.

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