On paper, Marianne Zwagerman fits perfectly at the table at Today Inside, but she has failed not only with Wilfred Genee, but also with Johan Derksen. “I think she is a very strange lady.”
Story boss Guido den Aantrekker recently recommended opinion maker Marianne Zwagerman as a suitable female talk show guest for Today Inside, but the chance that she will join us is really very small. Not only because Wilfred Genee recently became very angry with her – he allegedly screamed and cried at her – but also because of Johan Derksen.
Scents and colors
Johan thinks Marianne is a very strange woman. Her recent one Telegraph column about Groningen gas also makes no sense, he says in the podcast Greetings from Grolloo. In it she writes about her visit to a small Groningen village in the summer of 2021, for some TV program. She stopped by the house of psychologist Martin Appelo.
“He told us in great detail that many people in his village, and in countless other places in Groningen, had filled their pockets with the damage money intended to relieve the worst suffering from the earthquakes. Especially the well-spoken people (…) managed to rake in the money for the very expensive renovations of their homes.”
Natural gas damage money
According to Marianne, renovations have been carried out at the best of times. “Even if they had at most a small crack in the facade, if there was any damage at all. ‘So people here have heated swimming pools in the basement from the natural gas damage money?’ I asked just to be sure. Appelo had a good laugh about it. It was certainly no secret.”
Open those gas fields again, then advocate for them. “Give those people of Groningen their heated swimming pools, new window frames and caravans. As a government, take the bill without complaining. But for heaven’s sake, open the gas wells again today. How long will we allow our prosperity to be destroyed, based on transparent lies?”
A jar
Johan Derksen is done with that woman. “If the SGP takes steps to silence Marianne Zwagerman, I would wholeheartedly support that, because she is making a mess of it.”
He continues: “She drives through the Groningen countryside once in her life and comes to the conclusion that they are all notorious scammers. It is really unbelievable. And that she dares to write that! But she has to write a column, has no subject and then she has to write this kind of nonsense.”
Strange lady
He is a terrible person, says Johan. “I think she is a very strange lady, because she once said on TV – I have never met her, right – years ago: ‘That Johan Derksen, he stinks.’”
“Then I think: well, you may think I’m an asshole, you may hate me, it’s all a concern to me, but I don’t just say out of the blue: ‘Marianne Zwagerman has very ugly hanging tits.’ You don’t say that, because I don’t know that either.”
