Many years ago, the HSV regularly played the championship with Bayern. Many years ago he became a whipping boy of the Munich. It could have been different several times. Would have.
FC Bayern Munich will play against Hamburger SV on Saturday (13.09.2025, from 6.20 p.m. in the audio stream). It is obvious that the old stories are pulled out again.
The already very old stories will fall to the HSV. Games between Bavaria and the Hamburgers were once the classics of the Bundesliga, but it was not called that at the time.
Epic duel in the Olympic Stadium
On the 29th matchday of the 1981/82 season there was an epic duel. Bayern led 3-1 in the Olympic Stadium, the HSV won 4: 3 and ultimately became champion.
At that time the classic north-south summit was called, and it was actually often a summit, because the two teams regularly fought for the championship at the end of the 1970s and early 1980s.
For the first time since 2018 as Bundesliga duel
It is currently clear for almost every one that FC Bayern (6-0 against Leipzig, 3: 2 at FC Augsburg) will be German champion again, and for many it is clear that the HSV (0: 0 in Gladbach, 0: 2 against St. Pauli) will relegate.
But at least the north representative is again in the Bundesliga. He waited seven years to rise.
The stories of how the glorious HSV regularly looked as if it were a small city rival that is a small city rival in a preparatory game every year are already relatively old.
Eight defeats at 3:50 goals
0: 6, 0: 8, 0: 5, 0: 8 were the results from the perspective of Hamburg in the past four comparisons with Bayern in Munich.
Or also: The record champion won the last eight Bundesliga games with a goal difference of 50: 3. This is humiliating for a club where there are still many contemporary witnesses of won championships and even European cups.
Stories from the field of hypothesis
At some point, however, the creeping decline began, the struggles against the descent that were won for a long time, albeit sometimes with oh and noise. In 2018 it actually went down a league.
If the HSV would have preferred to get this or that. Would he have preferred a little more patient. If he had had more sporting competence on the management of the management.
The old stories also include many from the field of hypothesis. Would have had a bicycle chain, as it is called football philosophical.
The intervention of Dr. Man
An already very old story that affects FC Bayern Munich and Hamburger SV directly dates from the fall of 1978. Uli Hoeneß, world champion of 1974, wanted to leave the Munich because he was rarely used for them.
Günter Netzer, world champion from 1974 and in autumn 1978 manager at HSV, acted a contract. The signature and a medical examination were missing.
Arthroscopy? Not with Uli Hoeneß
Doctor Ulrich Mann, the team doctor of the Hamburgers, wanted to know more about it, because at the first check he had seen that a knee was damaged by Hoeneß.
Hoeneß considered this as a chicane, staged himself as a victim and stylized networker as a bogeyman. Instead of the HSV, Hoeneß switched to the 1st FC Nürnberg, played little there, quickly returned to FC Bayern as a manager.
Hand on it: Günter Netzer (left) and Uli Hoeneß in September 1978
The HSV’s debt was very limited in the Hoeneß case. In the next case it looks different.
In 2008, as is often the case, Hamburgers sought a trainer. Jürgen Klopp had caught their eye at the 1st FSV Mainz 05. They wanted to know more about him and sent a scout to Mainz who was more of a detective.
In Hamburg, the observer reported that Klopp was unpunctual, smoke and torn jeans. He was outraged that the Hamburgers rubbed themselves at the last two points. He banged further calls.
Second choice? Not with Christoph Daum
Three years later, the Hamburgers were looking for a sports director, Matthias Sammer was the first choice. The negotiations went well, but Sammer said.
The Hamburgers therefore turned to Christoph Daum, who was also on the list beforehand, but not as the first choice. The master coach, who died in 2024, rated this as disregard, he refused negotiations.
From the unsuccessful effort, a file folder with the HSV route testifies as a sticker in the Daum estate.
Chance for the next clap
Would have been, bicycle chain, and so on. Hamburger SV is now light years from FC Bayern Munich. But at least he can play for championship points in the arena again and, if necessary, pick up the next clap.