Caroline van der Plas gets back at Jort Kelder by lashing out at him in the prestigious HJ Schoo lecture. “Here, 25 years after the last episode, the new Ma Flodder is back on television!”
It does not sit well with Caroline van der Plas that normal people like herself are often looked down upon in the political arena, but also the supporters of her popular party BoerBurgerBeweging. She spoke about it yesterday during the HJ Schoo lecture, which in previous years was given by Sigrid Kaag and Dilan Yesilgöz.
Ma Flodder
Caroline denounces that looking down. “An ordinary boomer woman in her fifties, overweight and with only a HAVO education, who lives in a terraced house in Deventer and is a Member of Parliament – she is seen as an oddity by that bubble. People in this bubble sometimes call it scornfully ‘Ma Flodder’. Or ‘Miss Jannie’.”
She continues: “Yes, also journalists, such as the very friendly, but somewhat elitist Jort Kelder, who said about me a few weeks ago on Radio 1: ‘Then we will soon have Ma Flodder, who can suddenly become prime minister.’”
25 years
Then Caroline makes a joke to the Op1 presenter. “Well, Jort… How ironic is it for you and all other Ma Flodder denominators that it is exactly 25 years ago today that the last episode of the Flodder series was broadcast on TV? And that the new Ma Flodder is now back on TV, to do the HJ Schoo lecture.”
Political reporter Thomas van Groningen announced this fragment last night in Op1, because Jort was the presenter there. “Yes, strange. I have not seen. Yes, come on.”
Just kidding
It is striking that Jort reacts very sparingly. Thomas after the fragment: “Politically it means nothing, but it is a nice joke. Can you have it?”
Jort: “Yes, I think it’s totally fine. Incidentally, it was in response to the fact that she had given an interview of: ‘Yes, I’m not going to wear heels or dresses and such.’ It was a bit of a reaction of: yes, if you want to become prime minister, you have to stand on a platform sometimes. That’s part of it, isn’t it? Let’s not talk about that.”