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The elimination of FC Barcelona in Copa del Rey after falling to Atlético de Madrid ignited the debate in ‘El Chiringuito’where the Barça defeat was the trigger for a tough clash between Lobo Carrasco and Tomás Roncero. The discussion quickly escalated and left one of the most tense moments of the night.

Roncero assured that when they talk about Barça, they talk about Madrid because they need it: “It gives you assisted breathing, you are obsessed with Madrid.”

The Madrid journalist went further and assured that Barcelona fans enjoy white defeats more than their own successes: “You have already come out more excited by Madrid’s defeat. “The communicating vessel that gives you life is Madrid.”. According to Roncero, the real objective is not to win titles, but “going to eliminate, not for Atleti or for the Cup, to rub it against Madrid.”

With Barça recently eliminated, Roncero took the opportunity to remember the situation: “Since you are out, Albacete eliminates us and Atleti eliminates you. And you are going to see the final of La Cartuja in your living room.”. Lobo tried to lower the revs with a “yes, but don’t get excited, don’t get excited, calm down.”

The Madrid talk show host insisted on the sporting coup: “So the little drink is not for you. You are out, and the national triplet is out. In Europe, 11 years without smelling it. And we have 6 Champions in the last 11 years. We are the kings of Europe, much to your dismay.”

Lobo Carrasco responded, drawing on his personal record: “But I am world champion and you are nothing” Roncero responded, claiming the successes of the national team and Real Madrid: “Long live Casillas and Iniesta. World champion with Casillas and Iniesta with Spain. I have Spain and Madrid’s Champions League. And you go home. In the pants of your house.”

Far from remaining silent, Lobo defended his football vision: “No, no, I’m not going home. With that football I go wherever I want. You already have your role, come on.” But Roncero returned to the charge: “How well we played, but we failed. Like your Barça in your entire life”ensuring that Madrid wins “the wars” while Barça is left with “the little battles”until going so far as to affirm that, according to statistics, “Madrid is genetically champion.”

The exchange ended with Carrasco trying to stop the discussion: “Relax, relax, relax. Because you already go too far. “When you start taking things from the last century… I have said that with this football I go wherever I need to.”.



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