Jack van Gelder does not think he was too fierce at the table at the Oranjezomer against Henri Bontenbal, the political leader of the CDA. “Many people wonder how things went afterwards.”
It was not an easy TV performance for Henri Bontenbal: his visit to the Oranjezomer, in which Jack van Gelder pointed him to his woolly answers and preference to work with the left. Where an interview with Rob Jetten in the same show was pretty boring earlier, Jack made it a real spectacle.
Don’t feel like it
How did the backstage go? “A lot of people wonder how things went afterwards. Well, we have mats here in the corridor,” Jack jokes in the Oranjezomer. “No, we talked together. I think it’s a very nice guy. I don’t agree with him in everything.”
Jack continues: “I think the problem of politicians that they talk about it so often. You learn that on a course: give answers as long as possible, then someone else cannot ask anything about it, but I didn’t feel like it yesterday.”
Scarecrow
Table guest Sander de Kramer believes that Jack was too strict for Bontenbal. “Yes, but yesterday you were a scarecrow to hear that man. That was unbelievable. You tackled him, you went with a stretched leg. Riots! You were a bit of a political hooligan.”
Jack: “Yes, you can find that, but a while ago I saw an interview in the same program with Mr Jetten, and then you might as well send the people home and put down a microphone stand, and I didn’t feel like it.”
Populist
Media journalist Mark Koster of De Telegraaf has Jack another one populist mentioned, just like with other times he speaks out. Jack: “I think I give my opinion. And when people say,” He doesn’t understand politics. ” I don’t have that either, but I can judge as a Dutchman that I think go wrong. “
TV critic Victor Vlam: “It doesn’t have to be about how Jack did it? As far as I know you are not on the electoral list, but Henri Bontenbal is. I think the point you made, Onno, was right: he was very vague at some times. The discussion led him to be a little more concrete.”
Abortion position
According to critics, Bontenbal does not provide clear yes-no answers. For example, Victor points to his abortion position. “I counted the number of words: 184 he needed to answer a simple yes-no question. Then I think to myself: that’s crazy.”
Jack: “If he calls PvdA-GroenLinks a middle party and he excludes on the right, and I ask:” Then go to the left? “, Then it’s:” No, you’ll see that wrong. ” That’s not real. “
Is this a turning point for Bontenbal? Table guest Onno Hoes: “This may well have been such a moment for him that he thinks: I really did this wrong, this is a learning moment.”