I like it, but what exactly did he qualify for this post?
Hoffenheim was underground this season, both on the square and next to it.
And for that, the Co coach is particularly responsible. I agree with you.
It is no secret that the DFB distributes the posts to ex-players such as candies without showing the corresponding skills elsewhere. See Mustafi (first coaching station: co-trainer DFB-U17), Lars Stindl (first coaching station: assistant coach DFB-U20), or most recently the bender twins, who have also become assistant coaches at the DFB-U national teams as their first coaching stations.
Ex-players do not have to work out these posts, they just get them because they are and the player. The trainers who do not have a convincing vita as a player, but do a good job in the clubs in the UA in the youth area for years and would be simply more suitable for these posts.
We are always wondering why German young football is in a crisis.
Why is the German young football in the crisis? | sports studio
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8pQfpjhguy
That goes wrong in German young football | Bolzplatz | sports studio
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66vjelqxz2k
That is why German football has a talent problem – with Nico Heymer IX reasons frontal
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ouzi6jm-ig
Trainer in the Bundesliga youngsters under minimum wages | Sports show
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-nkf79b9ere&t=654s
The trainers, who get the jobs and do the jobs, especially in the NLZs in the power sector, also play a role, because the really attractive areas in the NLZs, which are full-time activities, i.e. in principle from U15, mostly ex-players, often without the appropriate experience in the youth area.
Bla bla bla.
In the Hübner case, it is the case that a long -term career as a Bundesliga player is not a bad qualification for this job at first.
Thank you and adieu!
Thanks for your witty contribution! Especially at the content of the level. Hats off, you have to do that first.
In my few words, I contributed more to the topic than you with your howling about the alleged crisis in German junior football.
As I said, only Bla Bla Bla your contribution.
The assertion that the DFB posted posts “like candies” is polemically and is underpinned by no reliable evidence. In fact, as in other areas, it is common in football to play professional networks, experience from practice and personal suitability in filling jobs. The fact that ex-professionals receive positions in the coaching area does not automatically mean incompetence or nepotism.
The fact that the above-mentioned ex-player did not have a formal coaching station did not mean that they are without any qualifications.
Shkodran Mustafi is world champion, has international experience over a decade and also completes his coaching license.
Lars Stindl is considered an extremely reflective player who has been captain of a Bundesliga club for years – this is lived leadership work.
The Bender twins were described by almost all trainers as extremely tactically experienced players, they have already dealt intensively with training methodology at active times.
This type of implicit knowledge and game intelligence cannot simply be replaced by certificates. In addition, they are not used as head coach in the DFB, but as an assistant coach-so consciously as an introduction with learning potential. These items are not an end station, but part of a development path.
It is simply not true that everyone or even most coveted items go to ex-professionals. Many head coaches and assistant coaches in the DFB youngsters and in the NLZs are not former Bundesliga professionals, but have worked up classically.
Examples:
Christian Wück, coach of the U17 national team, has never played in the first division and has grown in the youth field for many years.
Guido Streichsbier (formerly DFB U19) was never a professional, but came through academic training and club work.
In many NLZs (e.g. Mainz, Freiburg, Leipzig), trainers work very successfully in the basic and construction area without a big player career.
Of course there is competition, but to say that only ex-players have opportunities, the reality distorted.
German junior football undoubtedly has structural problems – but these are complex.
The causes are, among others:
Early specialization and ininselization in the NLZs
Too early sorting out physically weaker players
Boarding regulation and too little creative freedom
Lack of permeability between young and professional sector
In comparison, the fact that some assistant coaches are ex-professionals plays at most. It is dubious to reduce complex problems to a single personnel policy. The videos listed speak of many structural factors themselves-not from “ex-professionals take away the jobs”.
It is not illegitimate that former internationals or Bundesliga players prefer to come to certain positions – their career brings knowledge, experience and credibility. Just like in other professional fields, such “career changers with a reputation” are also welcomed in schools, universities or politics. It is crucial whether you continue your education and take your role seriously. This is demonstrably the case in the cases mentioned.
Conclusion:
The criticism is emotionally understandable, but covered in terms of content, generalized and undifferentiated. The DFB has to improve structurally and sporty, yes-but to present an ex-player as unsuitable, ignores its value, motivation and potential. In addition, the argumentation hides the high proportion of non-prominent, academically trained trainers in the NLZs and DFB teams. Instead of leading graves, one should talk constructively about quality assurance and further training for all trainers – regardless of their player biography.
Okay, then I didn’t say clearly enough that I see personnel policy as part of the problem. I had not listed the other points now because I just wanted to refer to the situation that Hübner, who is ex-player and has more or less only 1 year experience in the trainer segment, should become an assistant coach at the NATIO.
Admittedly, the argument is too undifferentiated, but basically it is a question that you as an ex-player, whether that now has to work as a chief or assistant coach, less at the level of coaching team to get faster, so to speak.
For me, this simply means that coaches who do a good job in the NLZ or not NLZ for years, especially compared to the ex-players, are less likely to come into the popular positions. There is no random that sometimes becomes a co-trainer, or with a Bundesliga club without coaching experience at DFB.
Someone who is not an ex-player has to do great work for years. With the ex-players, it is enough if they have shown as a player that they might be good coaches because they may bring tactical understanding, human leadership, etc.
Despite it:
Xy
+-10 years of trainer (NLZ, not NLZS, and much more) to get into the attractive positions
Ex-player
No experience as a trainer to get into the attractive positions
Thanks for the clarification – that makes your perspective more understandable. Nevertheless, I still consider some of your conclusions to be shortened and partially incorrect. The core of your argument is that ex-players like Hübner, compared to “classically trained” coaches, are preferred without a large player career and can almost take a shortcut to the national team’s team. In my opinion, this view falls short and does not live up to reality in professional football.
Let’s take the Benjamin Hübner case: Yes, he didn’t work in the coaching area for years. But he also does not become a head coach, but a co-trainer in the team around Julian Nagelsmann. In such teams, different skills are deliberately bundled – tactical knowledge, pedagogical skills, analytical thinking, but also experience from active professional sports. Hübner has many years of Bundesliga experience, leadership qualities from his time as a captain and a deep understanding of everyday professional life. This is not nothing-this is a different, but quite relevant form of qualification, especially in a coaching team that works with national players at a top level.
The idea that ex-professionals should “do less” does not stand up to a reality check. Many systematically complete their coaching licenses, attend associations and invest a lot of time in their training – they also have to pass exams, develop concepts, can handle modern training methods. The path may not be identical to that of a long-time NLZ trainer, but it is not automatically easier. In addition, ex-players who quickly move into visible positions are also under special public observation-when they fail, the media echo is often twice loud.
The fact that coaches have to fight harder without a player career is sometimes correct – but not because they are systematically disadvantaged, but because they have to do persuasion in other ways. Nevertheless, there are countless examples of successful trainers who do not look back on a professional career: Julian Nagelsmann, Thomas Tuchel, Hansi Flick, Marco Rose or many DFB young coaches such as Christian Wück or Guido Streichsbier. These trainers have not only made it – they decisively shape the current generation of coaches. This shows that those who are good get opportunities – regardless of the career path.
Your comparison “XY with 10 years of experience vs. ex-player with 0 experience” lags in that he narrows experience to the field of coaching work. A player with 15 years of gaining experience does not have a “zero experience”, but a different form of practical knowledge-from cabin, competition, management tasks, daily work with top coaches. This is not a guarantee of success, but it is a valuable basis on which a coaching career can be developed. This is exactly what co-trainer posts at DFB are a sensible start.
You are right that the paths in coaching positions go differently. But that does not automatically mean that they are unjust or in terms of quality. Instead of building a contrast between ex-professionals and “pure” coaches, we should recognize that both profiles are valuable-and that diversity in the coaching team brings football more in the long term than unit biographies.
And if you need a strong example of this that “non-professionals” can make it all the way up to the top: the current national coach Julian Nagelsmann never had a professional career himself-and yet (or precisely because of this) he brings new ideas, modern approaches and high professional quality. In the end, it does not matter where you come from, but what you make of it.